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Should public Web services be OpenID providers only?

this is a slightly paraphrased question initially posed on the “Web & Web Usability” weblog by Diego Ferreyra:

Imagine every service (any service) provider did that. Blogger, MySpace, Digg, and so on. You would still have 3000 OpenID accounts because none of them would allow you to sign in with the OpenID provider of your choice.

Discussion can come around this: Should the OpenID providers be OpenID providers only?

this may appear an interesting discussion indeed, but an answer to this question seems to be depending upon another one: what goals public Web services want to achieve by incorporating OpenID support?

besides an ‘OpenID Code Bounty‘ which only demands from its participants EITHER to “Implement OpenID 2.0 support as a Relying Party (RP) OR Identity Provider (IdP)”, first, rather obvious answer, which comes to the surface is to provide a deeper market penetration by means of increasing their userbases.

anything else I missed?


PS another nice Diego’s remark from the same blog post:

I wonder what people would’ve said if it was Microsoft who had given this kind of OpenID support.

“Now you can use yourname.passport.com as an OpenID account”, — “No, you can’t sign in into our services using another’s provider OpenID”.

my guess people wouldn’t say anything special, being already accustomed to the ‘One Microsoft Way‘ in particular and a .COM Web services’ common way in general.

WordPress.com is not about to support OpenID Consumer

unfortunately, my misgivings about low chances of OpenID Consumer (Relying Party) support on WP.COM I have expressed in my previous post (which I wrote before an official announcement has been published) are becoming true.

sadly enough, but the following comment of Matt just confirmed my speculation:

What problems we’re having do you think accepting OpenIDs would solve?

although this is a purely rhetoric question not requiring an answer, it’s clear that accepting OpenIDs would gain a greater number of Identified by an external OpenID (i.e. not Anonymous) comments to posts published by WP.COM users, thus providing them with more feedback to their blogs.

and I think they need it (as everyone who’s doing something not only for oneself) ‘to alleviate some of the pain’: if they deprived from a monetary feedback in the form of revenues from GOOG ads (they are so longing for), just why don’t give it to them by way of a simple human response, at the very least?

it’s obvious ‘the idea of creating yet another account on yet another site’ certainly ‘leave cold’ everyone (from a growing number of sites) who already has existing external OpenID accounts just to sign in to a WordPress.com blog.

also, it would decrease some load on Akismet, I believe, albeit decreasing its value to some extent for all WordPress software in general as well.

well, we know as well as Blogger is a “leading web-based tool that helps you publish to the web instantly‘, WP is a ‘state-of-the-art semantic personal publishing platform‘, both focusing on easiness of use to comply with simplicity of their consumer audience; that probably means such services are not supposed to have an emphasis on user interaction across different web publishing providers as well.


despite a quote of the Matt’s comment already had a reference to the original blog post where it has been made (what, by the way, had been proved by the following pingback message), in view of “The Undevelopment Blog” remark on “where this quote came from” I had to modify this post a little bit to make the source more explicit.

“Pheromone control,” he said it was, “you just have to know how to generate the right smell.”

did anyone receive an absolutely unrelated to the post topic spam comment of the following content (original author’s orthography and syntax are preserved):

Somebody using pheromons to attract women, whether is real it?

Where they can be got?

I expect a heap of comments in the Akismet queue pushing me aphrodisiacs as a next step of this guileless marketing program intended for the corresponding it naive target audience and designed by respective artless merchants.

I can’t believe people can be such stupid to think that everyone as dumb as they are.

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WordPress.com jumps on an OpenID bandwagon

today WordPress.com has become another Identity Provider, still isn’t an OpenID enabled service [yet?]

finally*, after Bill Gates has taken notice of, AOL has added support for (Server), Digg has announced they will support it, enhancement ticket on WP.org Trac, several topics in Ideas and number of in Support » Requests and Feedback section on WordPress.org and almost immediately after one more attempt trying to get an attention to the OpenID support has been made in the wp.com Ideas Forums, wp.com FAQ blog promptly reacts with post titled “What is OpenID?“, which is not only a mere explanation, but in fact is an announcement of implementing OpenID support as a Identity Provider (IdP) and at the same time is one of criteria meeting the requirements of the ‘OpenID Code Bounty‘ program.

now any wp.com user can use it’s wp.com account as the only identity to SSO to a number of OpenID enabled sites (i.e. post images to the Zoomr or leave unanonimous comments on a LiveJournal).

that’s all really great, my sincere congratulations to the WordPress.com team on taking decision and time to implement this!

but how about OpenID Consumer support, so that people who already have an external OpenID from plenty of public OpenID Identity Providers (such as MyOpenID or LiveJournal.com for instance)?

currently there are several plugins which makes a standalone WP installation an OpenID Consumer enabled service which I believe could be quite easily adapted for MU version of WP (WP.COM core is running on), that’s why together with Scott Kveton I share my hope for the coming WP.COM support of an OpenID Consumer (although, for some reasons I’m not so sure it’s going to happen as soon as Scott thinks).

*) judging by WordPress IRC meetups, it appears, Matt has been interested in the OpenID long since of May 2005.